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Creating confusion through gender politics is part of maintaining a male dominated society. Gay men particularly like denial both of the status of women and their right to equality. Standard political tactic to hide something the majority would consider unacceptable.

I do see one potential problem with lumping, for example, transsexuals under the transgender umbrella.

I've seen a push in various parts of the world for a third sex category, let's call it T, so we'd have M, F, or T. A category of T might make some people happy, but for me it would be totally unacceptable, as I'm female, period, and do not consider myself in any way beig in-between M and F.

Nor do I want to be forced to use unisex bathrooms only. Once again, being female, I should be able to use the women's bathroom. To do otherwise would be to treat me as a 2nd class woman.

I'm not against the creation of a third gender marker per se, but I do think that if society sees transsexuals as just part of the transgender group, and therefore, is required to use a T marker, then I'd be very unhappy about it.

Millimeters probably, Maggie's British,

[wait for it}

Or perhaps stones.

One of the classic socio-political arguments to justify the bogus theory of gender is what do we do about those on their death beds unable to have surgery. It is often accompanied by the poor victimhood sympathy card and I dismiss it as ludicrous. I know people (myself included) who were advised caution. What you do is find a way to get there (multiple local anaesthetics whatever it takes) you go through it because if your brain is female and your body male then you do whatever it takes and at whatever risk to correct. You have no choice it is not an aspiration, a desire, a fetish, a life-style choice etc. It is who you are. I do not know a woman that would be content if they had a penis. I won't however chose a label for anyone else that's their call as it is my call to chose my label. The one thing I'm proud I can do is walk past another woman naked and be myself. I could not live with the alternative I'd rather die.

Myth 1. People have incurable medical conditions that are so impossible to manage that they would die if exposed to either a general or local anaesthetic so cannot have surgery.

The list includes? Never published as won't stand up to peer scientific peer review.

Myth 2. That Trans may indicate an underlying serious mental illness, a medical condition that talking can cure, thereby eliminating the need for surgery.

The list includes? Never published as won't stand up to peer scientific peer review.

Myth 3. It has to be a mental illness as I can't afford surgery and it wouldn't be funded otherwise.

A better classification outside of specialist psychiatry dominated by gay men / admirers is easy and the surgeons can set their own acceptance rules which is easy and what would happen.

In England with the best surgeon in a fantastic private hospital the cost is just £10,000 (17,000 USD) which is not a lot to pay to make a permanent irrevocable correction of a birth defect. If you can't borrow that what is your life worth?

Transgender are men with excuses whilst women find a way that's a key indicator of different brain sex by the way!

Peace, Love & Light.

Bad example completely silly see the even use surgery to improve the condition "Surgical thymectomy is indicated for its therapeutic effect in myasthenia gravis (MG)"

So anaesthetic is possible for MG patients wanting sex corrective surgery.

totw.anaesthesiologists.org/.. ./...

Your condition that means you must keep your penis is?

Come on give me a laugh!

Where is the list of medical conditions that stop you having sex correction? Answer only in the mind of a transgender.

It is not a valid argument for the assimilation of women who were once women born transsexual into the transgender myth.

I don't care if you refuse surgery or only want "top surgery" but the qualification for being a woman is simply not having a penis.

In England the law allows yo have a female birth certificate but requires you to become a transgender to get it. If you ask for a new birth certificate having had irrevocable sex corrective surgery you are refused one as that is not a valid criteria.

That is the crazy world of trans-theory written by lazy men for men to demean the status of women to something that only a male psychiatrist (usually gay or an admirer) can affirm.

If you think I'm being a "nasty person" by defending all women's right to say "you have a penis you are a man" then I gladly accept it.

"Trans" is a sand sculpture that the power of the sea of women will wash away.

Sorry I have no sympathy whatsoever for "narcissistic people who make excuses and whine about their oppression - the real subject of their narrative." I realise that we should be sympathetic and feeling but the Queer political lobby use these arguments to justify their myth that a male drag queen or a transvestite fetishist is part of the range / spectrum of transgender. This is the quote they use to justify their politics!

"The term trans as in trans man, trans woman, trans community, trans people etc. is a very British term, coining in the 1960s when a well known member of parliament uttered the words;

“transgender, transsexual, transvestite – this gets so confusing – there must surely be one word we can use to refer to all”

One joker around the table suggested “transistor radios” and following that up, another wit said “that’s it: trannie”, and then the voice of reason said that might be objectionable to some ‘trans’ people, at which point the term came into being."

transequality.co.uk/.../

I completely understand the annoyance and distress caused by those conflating terms out of ignorance, a desire to be inclusive or exclusive, or as an attempt to over simplify or completely eradicate their opposition. There have been people born since people appeared on this earth who have had their brains cross-sexed, relative to their bodies. Of course, as soon as I say this, some will prefer cross-gendered. LOL

So, even before I can discuss the word “transsexual”, I’m immediately forced to consider the words “sex” versus “gender”. Both words have multiple meanings, in part, due to sloppy usage on multiple forms we fill out in life. However, bottom-line, the word sex can refer to one’s biological sex or the act of having or doing what one calls sex. Because of this latter definition, and the puritanical characteristics of our society, I speculate that many people end up using “gender” to refer to one’s sex, as the word “sex” makes some people uncomfortable, just as some do not like the word “transsexual”, as it has that word “sex” in it — OMG!

So, one will find some transsexuals referring to themselves as “transgender” to avoid connotations of transition having something to do with wanting to have sex. Suffice it to say, for good or ill, the words “sex” and “gender” are commonly used to mean the same thing, and therefore, are synonyms in this respect. However, the word “gender” is also used to refer to arbitrary and socially-constr ucted, sexually-dimorp hic rules and behaviors associated with being male or female. The word “sex” does not have this particular use, just as the word “gender” does refer to sexual intercourse.

Therefore, in order to make myself perfectly clear, I will use the term “sex” to refer to those innate, biologically-so urced aspects of being male or female, and the term “gender” to refer to social role and presentation of being male or female.

At birth, the identification of male or female sex is made on the basis of penis or no penis. This is such a basic reality of human existence, that doctors of our modern age (within the past 50 years or so) would and still do surgically alter intersexed babies to force them into one of the two groups — male or female. The problem with this, of course, is that the baby is too young to speak for themselves and say “I’m a boy” or “I’m a girl”.

For those without deformed or intermediate appearing genitalia, the decision is immediately made on the basis of penis/no penis, corresponding to boy/girl, which then is documented on the birth certificate.

I digressed onto this topic of birth, as it is becoming clearer through medical research that not only are the body’s primary and secondary sexual characteristics generally sexually dimorphic, but so is the brain itself, with the former being visually obvious, and the latter being not visually obvious. Now, if the body can be born with intersexed characteristics , what about the brain? Personally, I would see no reason it couldn’t also have intersexed characteristics.

Herein lies, I believe, a central truth. There are indeed, most likely, those with intersexed brains. Does that make them male or female? Genderqueer? A crossdresser?

I, for one, cannot look at someone else and make such a determination. If one is insistent upon wanting a label, I suggest they find an appropriate qualified therapist, who can assist them in applying the appropriate label.

But back to the contentious word “transsexual” — Once again, there were transsexuals in existence long before modern medical science made it possible to correct this birth defect. So, at some point transsexuals had to either find a way to live with their condition or commit suicide. The intense internal dysphoria did and does still result in significant numbers of transsexuals, as well as transgenders, committing suicide.

Historically, those, those whom would be considered transsexuals in pre-modern times (keep in mind “transsexual” is a modern term coined with the availability of surgical correction, and therefore, referring to those who did so) often did attempt whatever means possible at the time to force their bodies to match their brain sex.

Examples of this exist to this day. Desperate transsexuals cut off their penis, sometimes dying in the attempt. As I said a moment ago, the term “transsexual” came about with the availability of surgical genital correction, so obviously it is a term referring to those whose brains are cross-sexed with their bodies and seek surgical correction.

Much of the fighting over the use of the term “transsexual” seems to me to be in regards to those who self-identify as “transsexual”, but have no desire to transition. This situation is further complicated by those who for various reasons treat the words “transgender” and “transsexual” as synonyms, just as we could argue for eternity as to whether or not “sex” and “gender” mean the same thing, or why one drives on a parkway, but parks on a driveway!

This all aside, the reality is that it can and does take transsexuals varying amounts of time to come to terms with their reality and decide to transition. Personally, I believe that unless one commits suicide first, they will eventually start the process of transition and will be driven to complete this task (as much as they are able and modern medicine allows), as there brains are fully female (or male) and they want their bodies to match accordingly.

Now for one to say they are a transsexual, but they like having a penis, well, I have yet to meet a woman who wants a penis, at least not in that way — grin! Such a person might indeed have a partially cross-sexed, or intersexed, brain, and if they insist upon a label, I’d guess transgender, or genderqueer, or some other term is probably more fit than transsexual.

I say this because the argument can go both ways. “You’re not really a transsexual because you don’t have xxx!” or “You’re deluded, because I’m a transsexual and don’t need or want xxx! In fact, I’m going to work to prevent you from being able to obtain xxx!”

Now, I’ve said all I’m going to say for now on this tedious topic, which seems to get blown way out of proportion. I’m just going to hope we can get past arguing long enough to work together to help protect the rights and needs of every individual, which is what I like about the US constitution, in that it states we should all have the right to pursue happiness and live in peace with each other. I find all of this fighting tiring and boring.

I was diagnosed as a transsexual by skilled psychologists. I had no more interest in wearing that label the rest of my life than when other doctors told me I had cancer. In the former case, I transitioned and have put the label behind me, and in the latter case, I had the tumor removed. In both cases I have moved on. Life presents each of us with multiple challenges, and each of us must do what is necessary to find some amount of peace and happiness in this life.

I truly hope that the rhetoric I’ve seen can be toned down a bit, and we can instead focus upon making this world better for everyone, but then again, I’m a deluded dreamer, I guess!!! LOL"

I always find it ironic how the older, more bitter transgendered women are always the most likely to be dicks. Every difference you can find with other transgendered people is an excuse for you to say "see, this proves I'm better than you. A TRUE woman wouldn't do that. A true woman would be specifically like me and me alone. But you are different. You are not a true woman."

Whole thing is a childish "trannier than thou" game that I would have hoped adults would be above.

I wrote this in an earlier article and in view of the vitriol and direction of the comments away from the subject which is a standard transgender tactic to avoid the truth I feel it is worth repeating:

The fantasy or fetish role where women can have a penis has dominated Gender Theory with very aggressive transgender people silencing all those who question the scientific basis by screaming transphobia and gender is a range.
 
Gender is at best a range of expression & perceptions but not including the right to deny physical sex correction and full integration into society.

Transsexuals never change the sex of their brain nor are they confused about it.  

As a direct result three key issues remain unresolved for men & women who were born transsexual.
 
1 The absolute and total removal of the mental illness classification.
 
2 The automatic right to a corrected birth certificate with no pre-conditions if someone has had full sex corrective surgery.
 
3 The absolute right of a child from age 8 to obtain puberty delaying drugs prior to corrective surgery at 16 without permission from the medical profession.
 
Transsexuals do not deny the rights of Transgender to campaign for a third sex or gender but not at the cost of denial of corrected sex.